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I like waking up some people. It's rare I get to do it, with my sleep patterns, but I enjoy it when it happens.

Had a good time at [livejournal.com profile] cpirate's Nitiversary yesterday. An odd even higher than usual number of moments where I noticed how my way of thinking is different than that of others.

The work week flew by incredibly quickly, but the friday was one of these marathon 16 hour days. Productivity severely tapers off toward the end, of course, particularly as I bounced ideas with [livejournal.com profile] cpirate and [livejournal.com profile] wlach, but managed to produce some good evilness. We went for a beer at Old Dublin after, which has rather loud, but sometimes deliciously odd music (for an irish pub). We left the place to the sound of Björk, which was awesome.

It's actually a cold night tonight. And I'll be alone in my bed, and I'm looking forward to it. I rarely miss having the bed for myself (the opposite is more common, yes!), but I do like it sometimes. Not that I haven't had it this week sometimes, but I don't know, tonight seems likes a stretch out in my bed kind of night. Or morning, as it may be, since I felt like doing groceries and driving around, and it is now ridiculously late (or amazingly early). Hmm, pierogies for dinner tomorrow!

Some thoughts I've simmered for a long time, and often find myself trying to explain in an inarticulate way, so I'll write them down and just point at this entry. :-)

How do people in exclusive relationships deal with being attracted to someone else, particularly when it's not just a physical kind of attraction, but that there really seems to be something? What's the agreement exactly in a "conventional relationship"? I understand that physical displays of affection would be off-limit and considered cheating, but what about the feelings? "I'm in love with this other guy, but I'm not cheating!", is that true? To me, the feelings would count at least as much, and I've let my exes get very close physically to some persons where there wasn't much attraction without flinching, and feeling cheated upon when seeing simple holding of hands where I felt this wasn't the case.

If you are with someone who expects you to love him/her exclusively, would you break up if you found yourself not doing so? Is it more fair and respectful to do so, as you would be effectively "cheating" by breaking what was more or less agreed upon? Or would that be unfair? Hmm, maybe it's unfair but respectful?

In my opinion, this is just a completely unreasonable request, and someone insisting on something so ludicrous as requiring me to have total control on my emotions (as opposed to acting or not upon them) would find themselves free to require this of someone else soon enough...

Date: 2005-08-06 03:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] phrawzty.livejournal.com
The whole concept of monogamy is nutty in the first place. As living, thinking organisms, we're not built for it in any case. Furthermore, monogamy as a social practice is a relatively new human invention, which, i suspect, will fizzle out with time anyways.

Date: 2005-08-06 05:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pphaneuf.livejournal.com
That's what I found out myself, the whole thing of "one true love" just doesn't seem to be true. I'd understand someone who would decide to have exclusive relationships because that's simpler to manage for them (these have their own complications, but also have a lot of social background and collective experience to draw from), but someone telling me they can only love one person, I view with a big grain of salt.

Date: 2005-08-07 01:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sorceror.livejournal.com
It already has, really. How many people get divorced and remarried, and maybe more than once? I'd argue that's a blow against monogamy, even if each relationship remains monogamous while it's going on.

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